How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Why do men like to have sex with a woman's ass?

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Why do I feel like something bad is going to happen to me?

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Why are men so attracted to big breasts?

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Can you provide a list of cities named after animals and the animals they were named after?

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

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We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

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ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

What song are you listening to right now? What does it mean to you?

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Why is my ex mad I moved on when he dumped me?

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

What is every dictators biggest fear?

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

What would TERFs do if there weren't such a thing as being transgender? Who would be their target?

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

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Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

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Now here in this verse

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

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— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I am like a fish out of water,

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

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If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

NOW…

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ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Sain (a barber)

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Kabir (a weaver)

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

CONCLUSION: